This is great information Jane. I didn’t know about Fleet prison. I can’t help thinking what life must have been like for 4 year olds marrying. The Julian calendar always confuses me, so thanks for the info about it.
Thanks. When I came across John and Alice, I felt compelled to learn more about the circumstances surrounding their marriage. I am glad I followed it up and I am pleased that others are appreciative as well.
I appreciate the explanation between the two types of marriages. I can see why many people obtained this type of marriage. A lot of time and effort seems to have been spent on trying to control that.
Very well researched and presented using one couple’s 1733 marriage! Enjoyed the analysis of the question of why they chose to do an irregular marriage - wish we knew!!
Great read! I had no idea about these differentiations between marriages. If it were me, I'd be down for the Fleet Prison marriage which sounds way less bureaucratic. Haha
I also love Gregorian calendar. On projects I've worked on at work, the Ancestry's site best understands these Gregorian dates in this format:
Yes it is customary to double date for Julian calendar dates between 1 January and 25 March to reflect the change of New Year from 25 March to 1 January when the change to the Gregorian calendar was made. That brought England and Wales in line with Scotland where 1 January was already the first day of the year. So when converted to the Gregorian calendar dates at the beginning of the year would be a year later. 23 January 1730 (Julian Calendar) converts to 3 February 1731 (Gregorian Calendar) so is shown as 23 Jan 1730/31.
Great history lesson on marriage practices. The Fleet Street Prison marriages were news to me. I also liked the way you share your genealogist questions within this post. Now I wish to read more and will visit the longer blog post you mention!
The other post linked to is just a differently organised version of this one. I am on the verge of getting rid of my other Blog because it really only repeats what is in my Family History Archive and seems to be a step too many when I can link direct to my Archive … Still mulling things over.
This is great information Jane. I didn’t know about Fleet prison. I can’t help thinking what life must have been like for 4 year olds marrying. The Julian calendar always confuses me, so thanks for the info about it.
I’m so glad you wrote about this. I’ve read books that mention clandestine or irregular marriages but had not delved into reading more about them.
Thanks. When I came across John and Alice, I felt compelled to learn more about the circumstances surrounding their marriage. I am glad I followed it up and I am pleased that others are appreciative as well.
I appreciate the explanation between the two types of marriages. I can see why many people obtained this type of marriage. A lot of time and effort seems to have been spent on trying to control that.
Very well researched and presented using one couple’s 1733 marriage! Enjoyed the analysis of the question of why they chose to do an irregular marriage - wish we knew!!
Thanks, Celia.
Well researched! This is valuable background on English marriage. Thank you for the effort you put into this.
Thank you for reading and commenting!
Great read! I had no idea about these differentiations between marriages. If it were me, I'd be down for the Fleet Prison marriage which sounds way less bureaucratic. Haha
I also love Gregorian calendar. On projects I've worked on at work, the Ancestry's site best understands these Gregorian dates in this format:
12 Jun 1744/45
Just a fun fact! 😊
Yes it is customary to double date for Julian calendar dates between 1 January and 25 March to reflect the change of New Year from 25 March to 1 January when the change to the Gregorian calendar was made. That brought England and Wales in line with Scotland where 1 January was already the first day of the year. So when converted to the Gregorian calendar dates at the beginning of the year would be a year later. 23 January 1730 (Julian Calendar) converts to 3 February 1731 (Gregorian Calendar) so is shown as 23 Jan 1730/31.
Great history lesson on marriage practices. The Fleet Street Prison marriages were news to me. I also liked the way you share your genealogist questions within this post. Now I wish to read more and will visit the longer blog post you mention!
The other post linked to is just a differently organised version of this one. I am on the verge of getting rid of my other Blog because it really only repeats what is in my Family History Archive and seems to be a step too many when I can link direct to my Archive … Still mulling things over.